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Posted by: n/a
« on: June 24, 2020, 12:24:29 pm »

(Blake) equates a world void of passion and living on a mechanical Newtonian realm alone as the lowest level of existance, which he refers to as Ulro. When we speak of the earth as sphere, we are using mathematics to understand our world. We are focusing upon the universal without feasting on the particular.

pages 195-196 243-271

https://www.google.com/books/edition/William_Blake_and_the_Productions_of_Tim/faq9HFWt3uwC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=william+blake+universe+infinite+plane&pg=PA243&printsec=frontcover
Posted by: n/a
« on: June 23, 2020, 07:11:26 am »

Bacon, Newton, and Locke

These were three of Blake's pet peeves, one of his "Unholy Trinities". How come?

During Blake's life the British culture was in the throes of the Enlightenment, but his culture went way back before the Enlightenment into the Renaissance, and the Reformation, and the Middle Ages, and yet further and further before any of these passing scenes. People generally tend to feel that their culture is all there is or ever was-- very, very parochial. In contrast Blake was universal.

Bacon (1561–1626) was said to be the father of Empiricism, which meant in effect guided exclusively by sense-based thoughts. His attitude toward reason contributed largely to the advent of the Enlightenment, all of which Blake despised.

If Bacon inaugurated Empiricism, Newton (1642-1727) was an avid practitioner of it. Among other things he was a theologian , but his theology, with its naturalistic bent, had little to do with the theology of William Blake; one was natural; the other was divine. Under Newton's influence early 19th century English religion was dominantly Deism (God wound up the world like a clock and, losing interest in it, left it to unwind on its own).

Finally we have to look at John Locke, (1632-1704), widely known as the Father of Liberalism. Blake might well have endorsed many of Locke's liberal tendencies, but one thing about Locke completely antagonized him: the tabula rasa!

Somehow these three widely different men came to be associated in Blake's mind with what I've called an 'Unholy Trinity'. It appears many times in his writings:

http://ramhornd.blogspot.com/2011/08/bacon-newton-and-locke.html
Posted by: n/a
« on: June 22, 2020, 08:59:20 pm »

You're a D name, too.
And I don't post drunk. And am still shadowbanned.
Maybe SC, but I figure it's another mod. Oldwhathisname or a sock. Popeye may be OW.
Seriously, what IS going on there?
Disturbed used to have FBI informant as his signature.
Even if not FBI, many a truth is told in jest.

Fat candy doesn't have the mental capacity to do serious modding!

Your evolving, it was proven not flat from flat earthers but atleast your not a noob

You are twice wrong.
I am not evolving, nor has flat earth ever been disproven.
If you are referring to the laser gyroscope experiment, I ate up that nothingburger and put a hurt on the globeheads. They have not shown up here, probably my fault for not bumping the Infinite Plane thread.

(Blake) equates a world void of passion and living on a mechanical Newtonian realm alone as the lowest level of existance, which he refers to as Ulro. When we speak of the earth as sphere, we are using mathematics to understand our world. We are focusing upon the universal without feasting on the particular.
The flat earth reminds us of the particularity of our existance. It’s not just some tree, it’s the dogwood in front of my house that captures my heart. It’s not just the abstract principe of female that capture my heart, but the particular–women as realized in my particualr wife, Kelly.
In a world of global politics and national grocery chains (not to mention “branded” churches), we lose sight of the value in little things and local places. Blake calls us back to the particular and rejoices over the wonder of a flat earth.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...clnk&gl=us

"Now I a fourfold vision see And a fourfold vision is given to me Tis fourfold in my supreme delight And three fold in soft Beulahs night And twofold Always. May God us keep From Single vision & Newtons sleep."

Blake felt that these three men (Blake's 'unholy trinity')
had led England into a thoroughly materialistic,
spirit-denying culture dominated by greed.

http://ramhornd.blogspot.com/2010/01/bac...locke.html
Posted by: guest18
« on: June 22, 2020, 03:42:27 pm »

Personally ,I do not believe its flat.
That being Said ,I do not see the harm in having a thread debating the issue.

I mean , its like having a thread , "pizza ...pineapple ,or not ?"
Yeah it could get heated, but its a debate so...

Posted by: guest5
« on: June 22, 2020, 02:47:16 pm »

Quote
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/flat-earthers-spend-20-000-trying-to-prove-earth-is-flat-accidentally-prove-its-round-129953
One of those Flat Earthers is Bob Knodel, who hosts a YouTube channel entirely dedicated to the theory and who is one of the team relying on a $20,000 laser gyroscope to prove the Earth doesn't actually rotate.

Except... It does.

"What we found is, when we turned on that gyroscope, we found that we were picking up a drift," Knodel explains. "A 15-degree per hour drift.

"Now, obviously we were taken aback by that - 'Wow, that's kind of a problem.'

"We obviously were not willing to accept that, and so we started looking for easy [?]  to disprove it was actually registering the motion of the Earth."

This is the gist of it, a device that measures something. I forget what the true explanation is, something to do with the actual rotation of the dome.

I'll copy and paste the reply I made on AE. Not here, the FE thread.

Good D, not bad D.  8)
Posted by: guest18
« on: June 22, 2020, 02:32:28 pm »

You're a D name, too.
And I don't post drunk. And am still shadowbanned.
Maybe SC, but I figure it's another mod. Oldwhathisname or a sock. Popeye may be OW.
Seriously, what IS going on there?
Disturbed used to have FBI informant as his signature.
Even if not FBI, many a truth is told in jest.

Fat candy doesn't have the mental capacity to do serious modding!

This D is good D.
The other one is bad D
Posted by: Domains
« on: June 22, 2020, 10:05:56 am »

I saw a video where they used lazers to prove it was not flat,  Can't find video :(
Posted by: guest5
« on: June 22, 2020, 09:34:15 am »

The luck of the Irish may be suggested in the new green header.
Not a 4 leaf clover, though. too bad. I would make a wish -- that Domains wins the lottery and makes this site a cutting edge powerhouse that attracts lots of critical thinkers.

The other for-hums are ate up with the dumbass now. Way too much politics and groupthink.
Real CT is a rare bird. But shills galore beat down any discussion of alternative ideas. Everywhere!

I'm off-topic. Maybe we need a new thread to deal with this site and its future. Yes, I think it does have a future. I've never been welcome on any forum. Even COP turned against me.
And I'm tired of biting my tongue when owners and mods censor free speech.
Domains disagrees with my major interests but protects my right to be here.
 
Posted by: guest5
« on: June 21, 2020, 06:28:15 pm »

You're a D name, too.
And I don't post drunk. And am still shadowbanned.
Maybe SC, but I figure it's another mod. Oldwhathisname or a sock. Popeye may be OW.
Seriously, what IS going on there?
Disturbed used to have FBI informant as his signature.
Even if not FBI, many a truth is told in jest.

Fat candy doesn't have the mental capacity to do serious modding!

Your evolving, it was proven not flat from flat earthers but atleast your not a noob

You are twice wrong.
I am not evolving, nor has flat earth ever been disproven.
If you are referring to the laser gyroscope experiment, I ate up that nothingburger and put a hurt on the globeheads. They have not shown up here, probably my fault for not bumping the Infinite Plane thread. 
Posted by: Domains
« on: June 21, 2020, 04:40:12 pm »

You're a D name, too.
And I don't post drunk. And am still shadowbanned.
Maybe SC, but I figure it's another mod. Oldwhathisname or a sock. Popeye may be OW.
Seriously, what IS going on there?
Disturbed used to have FBI informant as his signature.
Even if not FBI, many a truth is told in jest.

Fat candy doesn't have the mental capacity to do serious modding!

Your evolving, it was proven not flat from flat earthers but atleast your not a noob
Posted by: guest5
« on: June 21, 2020, 03:43:56 pm »

You're a D name, too.
And I don't post drunk. And am still shadowbanned.
Maybe SC, but I figure it's another mod. Oldwhathisname or a sock. Popeye may be OW.
Seriously, what IS going on there?
Disturbed used to have FBI informant as his signature.
Even if not FBI, many a truth is told in jest.

Fat candy doesn't have the mental capacity to do serious modding!
Posted by: Domains
« on: June 21, 2020, 03:33:46 pm »

Dual is the new duel?
And who is the real D? There are 2, ya know.
D only posts when he has a drink and bans you if your drunk
Posted by: guest5
« on: June 21, 2020, 02:56:17 pm »

Dual is the new duel?
And who is the real D? There are 2, ya know.

Posted by: Domains
« on: June 21, 2020, 09:39:01 am »

Theres a limit to everything
Posted by: guest18
« on: June 17, 2020, 09:12:47 pm »

Im tired today im afraid, but I'm going to post all my deleted/locked posts from the other place, here.
I'll start doing that tomorrow.

Yeah
This is good...

And our overlord is the kindly sane D.
 :D
How about THAT.
Nothing you can do to make me demod you,  you need to dual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F5FHPLH73A

But im not a mod anymore...am I ?