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Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
« on: December 14, 2019, 09:15:37 am »
Why does "everyone" believe that the earth is a spinning ball in a vast void called space? I underlined believe because our current astronomy is a belief system. If you ask people to give reasons that justify the globe model, they have none. They just believe it to be so.

NASA is the Authority and Hollywood is the brainwashing tool that implanted the idea into the public perception. As Tesla noted many decades ago, the Body Scientific has abandoned the scientific method and substituted mathematics which employ unproven constants to obtain their desired results. In other words, they fake what they can not prove. And the public accepts the fakes, just as they accept whatever they see on teevee. Ergo, the name sheeple, implying a gullible flock of patsies.

There is no (0) proof, no logic, no empirical evidence, nothing at all -- to back up this belief.
Everything we are taught is a lie. Freemasons and the Church have pulled the wool over human eyes since the beginnings of time.

Below you will find a tiny sample of the basic failures of the heliocentric model. Flat Earth is one of a handful of heresies that are banned outright on other forums. Other taboo topics  include free energy, alternative history, the Electric Universe, the Atom theory hoax, and of course the legitimacy of Israel. Forums are destroyed for discussing any of these. Free speech is always in peril, as we all know too well.

Please consider my top 10 reasons without prejudice. Am I confident that we lie on a flat, non-rotating surface. Well, no. But I know I don't on a wet spinning ball in a vacuum. "Only the closed mind is certain." ~ Dean Spanley

1. Curvature. Spherical trigonometry dictates that the globe should exhibit a curve of 8 inches per mile squared. No experiments on land or water have ever proven this math to be accurate. On the contrary, with proper telephoto lenses, objects can be detected far beyond the expected curvature. Example: Photos of Chicago from across Lake Michigan.

2. Atmosphere vs space vacuum. Space theoretically begins 62 miles above the earth’s surface, at the Karman Line. The laws of physics say that a vacuum can not exist next to an atmosphere. Without a barrier to separate the two areas, the atmosphere would instantly escape into the hard vacuum of space. Example: open a tank of compressed air; the oxygen or other gases inside the tank will rush outside to achieve equilibrium of air pressure. A vacuum cannot exist next to the atmosphere.

3. Water. Liquid water always seeks its own level. Gravity, which is really the function of density (weight) of objects over distances, cannot cause oceans to curve around the globe. Sea level must be consistent throughout the world. Water, in other words, can not curve. Example: the Pacific Ocean, sea level.

4. Centrifugal force. If earth rotated at 1000 mph at the equator, nothing could withstand being thrown off of it along a curved or tangential path. Gravity is said to be the weakest force in the universe. It is, under any circumstances, unable to overcome the extreme speed of rotation. Gravity is actually the ratio of densities of adjacent objects, such as the density of water compared to that of air.. Examples include insects, clouds, smoke, other low density-objects which rise above the earth despite the alleged gravity and centrifugal force. Example: merry-go-rounds.

5. Authorities.  Professionals in many fields --pilots, engineers, surveyors, gunners, artillerymen, radar operators, etc. -- do not account for curvature in any manner. Example: surveyors never adjust for earth curvature when they design canals, causeway bridges, railroad lines.

6 Moon and sun. Both objects appear to the eye to be the same size, though the moon is around 238,000 miles away and the sun is 93 million miles distant. Sunlight beams deny the claim that rays enter earth’s atmosphere in parallel beams. Using simple geometry, one can determine that the triangular pattern results in a distance of only 3000 miles above. The moon emits a cooling light which illuminates only the clouds which are near it, not those that are further away. Example: sunlight beaming rays through clouds (crepuscular rays) form a triangle with a base of less than 8,000 miles miles

7. Constellations. Star patterns have not altered appreciably in human history. Considering speeds of celestial objects which travel billions of miles per year in multiple directions, as well as earth’s own rotation, revolution around the sun, following the sun through the universe, we should observe some changes in as little as 6 months (stellar parallax). But no such changes have been seen in 6000 years. Example: Orion, Polaris  in the same locations for millennia.

8. Airplane travel. Flights to and from countries in the southern hemisphere always pass over countries in the north, even though they could refuel in places along a direct route. When plotted on the flat earth map, the planes show that they follow a straight line. Example: flights between South America, Africa, Australia..

9. No Sensation of movement. If earth actually rotated and revolved around the sun at 67,000 mph, we should hear sonic booms and be swept away by winds far beyond hurricane strength.       Examples: quiet, calm days, east-to-west winds

10. Photographs of earth from space. There are no legitimate pictures or videos of earth.  All pictorial evidence is computer-generated, as are almost all photos of celestial objects. NASA even says that these photographs were created to “match people’s expectations.” 
Other evident fakery from space agencies, including the ISS and the Space Shuttle, further supports the argument that our ideas about space are entirely faked.

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Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2019, 10:19:00 am »
Unless I see things with my own eyes then I believe nothing.

Of course I can't see everything so I just don't dwell on it!

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2019, 10:49:52 am »
I hope this thread does not harm the forum.
But. Even when the dogs bark, the caravan moves on.
My background, for anyone who doesn't know me, is this.

My education was in language and literature, though my college entrance exams said I should pursue science. I learned early on that the path to truth was not in chemistry and physics, or even botany, which I loved.
Nope, it was the poets and philosophers who steered my thinking. I could not swallow unproven theories like the Atom, electron shell, Great Circle Route, other fanciful notions.

My teachers were old school, emphasizing materials and methods of research, clear thinking, exposition, explication, all the bygone ways of using rhetoric and logic. I taught, uhhh tried to teach, smart students who were future electrical engineers and other tech professionals. Boy, were those guys ate up with the dumbass, as they say around here. Most could not even construct a topic sentence or coherent paragraph.

And they are the people now running the show. Nasa, government agencies, corporations.
Clear thinking and free speech are mostly kaput now. Our grandparents were more knowledgeable and cynical than your average modern Homo ignoranus. David Icke says we are dumb, drugged, and docile.

OK, end rant and apologia.

I now continue with my thesis: that the earth is a vast and irregular and motionless plane. The universe is an electric torus with an accretion disk in the center. Our world sits inside the accretion disk, as do other worlds which may be accessed through tunnels in oceans, large lakes, and Antarctica.

This, on the other hand, is what tptb would have us believe. It is a typical cgi composite, not a real photograph. Nasa presented the EPIC Far Side lunar transit in 2015. It is a Photoshop flop, since freemasons don't need to bother making their products look realistic. Why should they? The taxpayers like fairy tales.



1. clouds don't move during the 5-hour transit
2. size of the US is wrong -- at 3000 miles wide, it should be 3/8th the diameter of the blue sphere (8000 miles)
3. moon is 2-dimensionally flat and does not rotate clockwise as advertised by Nasa
4. moon travels in a straight line while the EPIC "geostationary" satellite maintained an amazing fixed position
5. earth exhibits a curious pareidolia in the appearance of an angry clown with one eye closed and the other one open and baleful (the dark object off the coast of California)
Overall, a slipshod product, its many glaring peculiarities a test of human discernment.




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Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2019, 11:12:00 am »
'Live Each Day As If It Is Your Last, Cuz One Day You Will Be Right!'



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Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2019, 03:04:14 pm »


Without causing 'chaos' what's your opinion on this grav?

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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2019, 07:33:41 pm »


Without causing 'chaos' what's your opinion on this grav?

What chaos? I am used to doing the heavy lifting, wordwise, when people post a video with no context, no background, no math or science.

This one does not show the math on the screen. I'd guess that atmospheric comprehension and the vanishing point of human eyesight obscure the target. Place a coin on its edge on a table. Move it away from your view at the same table top height. The same optical illusion will occur, as the coin will seemingly disappear from the bottom up.  LOP's Han Sole used to play this trick on people in pubs.

Otoh, we have dozens of FE videos which do supply details: observer height, distance to target, height of target.
Rob Skiba, Taboo Conspiracy, and other Youtubers have made videos that exceed this one in attention to spherical trigonometry. While I appreciate all videos, I understand that they rely on memory of numbers.

Whereas photos have all particulars right there in front of curious eyes.
Notice the obscuring of the horizon line in this picture of Chicago. Even the tallest building , the Willis Tower, should be under the curve.

 


 


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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2019, 09:53:51 pm »
The firmament: Rocket hits the Dome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=PWDPRjWPXh0&feature=emb_title

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2019, 04:00:42 pm »
The firmament: Rocket hits the Dome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=PWDPRjWPXh0&feature=emb_title

Flat Earth British

MARTIN'S WORK WILL HAVE YOU QUESTIONING EVERYTHING YOU KNOW,
OR THOUGHT YOU KNEW...

http://www.flatearthbritish.info/

Flat Earth British is being hit hard by the Establishment now. He is more my speed than other other Youtuber. Most of his videos now are about faked history and resets. The history hoax should be a new thread.

Another forum is laughing at flat earth's lack of evidence. So I posted this.

How far away is space?
The Body Scientific says it's 100 km up, about 62 miles. 
The so-called Karman line is where air pressure drops to zero.
Our spinning ball is rotating 1000 mph and orbiting the sun at 66,600 mph and the whole solar system zooms along at .5 million mph.  
And our atmosphere sticks like glue to earth.
And a total vacuum with a torr of 0.00 surrounds it.
And fluffy clouds also travel those speeds, neither falling down to earth's gravity not drifting off into a total vacuum.
Isn't science fascinating?
just think, here is air, and a few dozen miles away is a vacuum.



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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2019, 04:52:28 pm »
The Moon Measures a Month, which is all I know of the Moon

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Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2019, 10:31:04 am »
The freemason minions keep lying and cheating. NullSchool was a site that used to show an azimuthal_equidistant projection of weather patterns. It was removed years ago. No reason given.
Now we are losing another site that we often used to prove long distance photos that are impossible on a globe.
And what do we see? Lots and lots of impeachment crap and football. And the sheeple slurp it up.

This video is 1 minute. 


 

Flat Earth Truth Suppression Underway?!

Published on Dec 16, 2019

Beyond Horizons is Dead!!! https://beyondhorizons.eu/ I have made so many videos using the unbiased flat earth proofs from the Beyond Horizons website which was not a flat earth website. It's now dead! I hope it's temporary but I'm thinking the globe Cabal killed it. Thank you David S. for the information! Seriously, this one hurts.

Gravity is density

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2019, 10:28:21 am »
 https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZonZ4PshKIY



This video uses one particularly offensive word which denotes loss of control and good reason. That said, the video crushes, haha, gravity as a force.

Its point is one that I have heard before now. So I give credit to the Youtuber who states Einstein's definition of gravity as the curvature of space-time.

Seriously? That doomerflatchie is how modern science conducts its business? 

I guess so, As I type, powerful people in the world's greatest state are discussing impeachment, which is nothing to begin with and just another distraction to keep the sheeple in their pens. The ptb even get the sheeple to build their own prisons and then march into them en masse.

Dumb, drugged, and docile.
And I have to live with these numbskulls. 

Space-time curvature, oh, my, stars and little fishes
!!!!!!!!!!??????????

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2019, 12:25:01 pm »
Your average human lunkhead reckons Einstein was the greatest intellect ever. or something. Relativity, space-time, other bs.

Your average human will also likely laugh at myths. Well,  I don't. Humans may be stupid, lazy, and good-for-nothing. But imaginative? Not even close.

So, yes, I take ancient legends, and chronicles, and fairy tales as meaningful reports of things people once knew about.
Now then, how are we "educated" modern people to take Einstein and theories like Big Bang?
And religions? And creation stories?
Actually, some scientists have postulated that reality is a computer program. And poets and philosophers might agree.

The one that fascinates me is the gnostic being called Gaia, also called Mother Earth.

From https://www.greekmythology.com/Other_Gods/Gaea/gaea.html
Gaea was the Ancient Greek personification of the Earth, and, for all intents and purposes, the Mother of Everything Beautiful in the world. Born spontaneously – either out of Nothingness or out of Chaos – Gaea brought forth (among others) Uranus, with whom she subsequently mated to give birth to the Titans, themselves parents of most of the Olympians. Gaea rebelled against the reigns of all three rulers of the universe (Uranus, Cronus, Zeus), but, ultimately, she had to accept her grandson Zeus as the supreme king of all gods and men.

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2019, 01:05:37 pm »
Why do so many people enjoy playing computer games in which they participate as avatar warriors and other digital beings?
Dunno...I dont. But there it is. My interpretation is this. We are playing roles in a sim world. We live, die, get defragged and rebooted again and again.

There is no spoon. Exactly!
Gaia, in the Pistis Sophia, became earth. Her offspring were immortal beings and titans and monsters. Their digital corpses became stone and rocks and the stuff we call earth.
Deucalion and his wife Pyyrha survived the flood and threw rocks around, which became people.

What a silly and foolish game. For what purpose? Do Dungeons and Dragons role players slay and do magick for spiritual enlightenment? or for kicks?

This Youtube guy annoys me so much. But he finds dna in granite and at least looks at things which science dismisses as fables.



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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2019, 02:45:39 pm »
Why do so many people enjoy playing computer games in which they participate as avatar warriors and other digital beings?
Dunno...I dont. But there it is. My interpretation is this. We are playing roles in a sim world. We live, die, get defragged and rebooted again and again.

There is no spoon. Exactly!
Gaia, in the Pistis Sophia, became earth. Her offspring were immortal beings and titans and monsters. Their digital corpses became stone and rocks and the stuff we call earth.
Deucalion and his wife Pyyrha survived the flood and threw rocks around, which became people.

What a silly and foolish game. For what purpose? Do Dungeons and Dragons role players slay and do magick for spiritual enlightenment? or for kicks?

This Youtube guy annoys me so much. But he finds dna in granite and at least looks at things which science dismisses as fables.


Truth be told, mankind may have great knowledge but he certainly lacks in wisdom.